Please please please update Google Desktop Search for Snow Leopard, it
is a life and death situation for me, it's a fundamental tool for my
work, I'll have to downgrade to Leopard if there'll be no support for
Snow Leopard.
> Please please please update Google Desktop Search for Snow Leopard, it
> is a life and death situation for me, it's a fundamental tool for my
> work, I'll have to downgrade to Leopard if there'll be no support for
> Snow Leopard.
> Why discontinue a perfectly good product? Please revive Google Desktop
> Search! QSB is no substitute.
> On Sep 2, 4:55 pm, Georg wrote:
> > Please please please update Google Desktop Search for Snow Leopard, it
> > is a life and death situation for me, it's a fundamental tool for my
> > work, I'll have to downgrade to Leopard if there'll be no support for
> > Snow Leopard.
This decision was pretty amazingly bad. You've got a product that
actually helps people and that people rely on several times a day, and
you replace it with a product that doesn't do well what people liked
and does do things that people didn't really need. What genius
product manager came up with that?
I'll throw my discontent on the pile here. Sadly, however, I don't
think Google employees read these forums. I've been watching these
Google Desktop threads for a year, have seen some great questions
(have asked some questions myself even), but have never seen a Google
response. So, these boards apparently exist for us to gripe to each
other.
I'm a fan of Google, but they really dropped the ball on their
customers' heads here.
GOOGLE: Bring back Google Desktop Search, and update it for Snow
Leopard while you're at it!
> This decision was pretty amazingly bad. You've got a product that
> actually helps people and that people rely on several times a day, and
> you replace it with a product that doesn't do well what people liked
> and does do things that people didn't really need. What genius
> product manager came up with that?
> I'll throw my discontent on the pile here. Sadly, however, I don't
> think Google employees read these forums. I've been watching these
> Google Desktop threads for a year, have seen some great questions
> (have asked some questions myself even), but have never seen a Google
> response. So, these boards apparently exist for us to gripe to each
> other.
> I'm a fan of Google, but they really dropped the ball on their
> customers' heads here.
> GOOGLE: Bring back Google Desktop Search, and update it for Snow
> Leopard while you're at it!
WTF do I need GQSB for? It doesn´t provide any benefits that Safari or
Firefox or Opera already provide with the Google Search plugins or
tool bars. If I wanted a google search bar, I would do a goole
search.
GOOGLE DESKTOP IS A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR DESKTOP!!! HEEELLLLOOOOO!!!!!!
Searchlight couldn´t do a fraction of what Google Dektop could do.
Instead, Google has replaced Desktop Search with an annoying Install
Updater message every 15 minutes that doesn´t do anything except pop
up with the same stupid message every time, regardless of what input
is entered. It is unavoidable unless you kill the Google processes in
the Activity Monitor. Stupid work-around.
Useless idiots at Google killed the best software application they
have created to date. Toootallly Laaaame!
> There's only been one vaguely constructive criticism of QSB vs.
> Desktop.
> Instead of blindly complaining, why don't you highlight what's
> missing?
> I'm pretty sure the case will be them enhancing QSB to fill in the
> gaps, versus funneling resources into two overlapping products.
> $0.02
> On Sep 3, 6:41 am, MacDude wrote:
> > This decision was pretty amazingly bad. You've got a product that
> > actually helps people and that people rely on several times a day, and
> > you replace it with a product that doesn't do well what people liked
> > and does do things that people didn't really need. What genius
> > product manager came up with that?
> > I'll throw my discontent on the pile here. Sadly, however, I don't
> > thinkGoogleemployees read these forums. I've been watching these
> >GoogleDesktop threads for a year, have seen some great questions
> > (have asked some questions myself even), but have never seen aGoogle
> > response. So, these boards apparently exist for us to gripe to each
> > other.
> > I'm a fan ofGoogle, but they really dropped the ball on their
> > customers' heads here.
> >GOOGLE: Bring backGoogleDesktop Search, andupdateit for Snow
> >Leopardwhile you're at it!
Is it any coincidence Eric Schmidt left the Apple board of directors
just before Snow Leopard's release and the shutdown of GDS
functionality? The Apple-Google spat extends beyond Android and Google
Voice, I believe. As I said before, install windows and GDS will work
just fine. Otherwise you're in for a long wait.
Here are a few real letdowns with QSB compared to Desktop in my usage:
1. Search results are limited to 10. That's it. I have 100's of
documents that may be returned for any given search. 10 doesn't cut
it.
2. No offline cache of Gmail messages. I used to use this A LOT.
3. No actual search of Gmail messages. You have to select the Gmail
menu item and double click to open Gmail. Not really convenient if you
are, you know, offline.
4. No ability to exclude web results in search results for desktop
items.
5. No Firefox support.
6. Did I mention results are limited to 10?
7. QSB doesn't actually index anything, rather it uses the Spotlight
index. Google, in my mind, is saying that Apple is better at search
than they are. I make no distinction between desktop search and
Internet search. Both are important to me.
These are a few things that are missing. Given that QSB doesn't
actually index anything on the desktop I hold out little hope that any
of my concerns will be addressed. This is a tremendous letdown for me
and I have begun to unwind my near total reliance on Google products.
I am using Spotlight now nearly exclusively. iPhoto in place of
Picasa. My me.com address is getting priority right this minute over
my Gmail account. I have an iPhone but had intentions of getting a
gPhone just to support the cause. Forget that. What if they decide to
kill a critical (for me) feature of the phone with Z E R O warning?
I don't know if my anger over this will subside or not. I have been
all Google all the time since 2004 and have brought many converts with
me. Pulling a product with Z E R O warning that I rely on every day is
a little more than I can overlook. I absolutely refuse to downgrade my
OS so that I can continue to use a product like desktop that is no
longer in development.
> There's only been one vaguely constructive criticism of QSB vs.
> Desktop.
> Instead of blindly complaining, why don't you highlight what's
> missing?
> I'm pretty sure the case will be them enhancing QSB to fill in the
> gaps, versus funneling resources into two overlapping products.
> $0.02
> On Sep 3, 6:41 am, MacDude wrote:
> > This decision was pretty amazingly bad. You've got a product that
> > actually helps people and that people rely on several times a day, and
> > you replace it with a product that doesn't do well what people liked
> > and does do things that people didn't really need. What genius
> > product manager came up with that?
> > I'll throw my discontent on the pile here. Sadly, however, I don't
> > think Google employees read these forums. I've been watching these
> > Google Desktop threads for a year, have seen some great questions
> > (have asked some questions myself even), but have never seen a Google
> > response. So, these boards apparently exist for us to gripe to each
> > other.
> > I'm a fan of Google, but they really dropped the ball on their
> > customers' heads here.
> > GOOGLE: Bring back Google Desktop Search, and update it for Snow
> > Leopard while you're at it!
First off, thanks for giving us a coherent list of issues to respond
to. I'll do my best to respond to them. A better place to discuss this
is probably on the [e-posta adresi] mailing list (that
I have cc'd). I monitor that list regularly.
On Sep 15, 9:27 pm, Randy A wrote:
> Here are a few real letdowns with QSB compared to Desktop in my usage:
> 1. Search results are limited to 10. That's it. I have 100's of
> documents that may be returned for any given search. 10 doesn't cut
> it.
Actually at the bottom of your results is the "more" result which will
show all the results we find.
> 2. No offline cache of Gmail messages. I used to use this A LOT.
> 3. No actual search of Gmail messages. You have to select the Gmail
> menu item and double click to open Gmail. Not really convenient if you
> are, you know, offline.
> 4. No ability to exclude web results in search results for desktop
> items.
Please add an issue again.
> 5. No Firefox support.
This is coming in the next version.
> 6. Did I mention results are limited to 10?
Covered above ;-)
> 7. QSB doesn't actually index anything, rather it uses the Spotlight
> index. Google, in my mind, is saying that Apple is better at search
> than they are. I make no distinction between desktop search and
> Internet search. Both are important to me.
Actually we are saying that the Spotlight index is complete enough for
disk based searches and that we would rather not bog down your machine
with two indexers indexing all of your data.QSB indexes a lot more
data than Spotlight does including your GoogleDocs, Picasa stuff, etc.
Even more importantly is the actions that QSB allows you to do. Check
out some of the Knols written by Steven Combs here:
http://knol.google.com/k/steven-combs/docs-tech-notes-guide-to-google... to see some of the great stuff QSB can do beyond the simple searching
that Desktop could do.
We are actively enhancing QSB. Try out the latest beta version here:
http://code.google.com/p/qsb-mac/downloads/list and see if it helps
you out. Otherwise we are very interested in any other constructive
criticisms you have of QSB.
Cheers,
Dave
Tech-lead of QSB (and former Tech-lead of Google Desktop for Mac)
> Actually we are saying that the Spotlight index is complete enough for
> disk based searches and that we would rather not bog down your machine
> with two indexers indexing all of your data.QSB indexes a lot more
> data than Spotlight does including your GoogleDocs, Picasa stuff, etc.
I dont know what has changed under the hood (except moving to use the
Spotlight Indexer) from Google Desktop to QSB but I am not even
getting half as useful top hits for my documents and emails (using
Entourage). On my Mac it went from Google-like magical 'always finds
what I am looking for'-search to mediocre Spotlight-search which is
often not worth even trying as it can only manage the most basic
queries.
Are you saying they should bring up identical results?
Too bad for me as I was relying 100% on Google Desktop and quit
wasting time to file files/emails in folders... difficult to find
stuff now. ;-)
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